Grasping at straws

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After yesterdays new's about Jin, I thought fans would see the benefits of the new KT arrangement once they'd calmed down and be more positive and accepting about it. But no. When it comes to Jin, the foremost action of KT fans is to defend. Defending a member you love is a-ok. But forcibly denying what's happening... not-so-much-ok.

Yes, we all know that Jin has said that he has no desire to leave KT and that he will return. Before he left for LA, that is.

We also know that once he returned from his tour, his answer changed to I like doing solo work more then KT work and I don't know what will happen in the future.

Don't deny the change people.
 
If you don't believe the newspapers, tv reports, KT's tears or Johnny-san's words, at least put your own wants aside and see what Jin wants. What he's been wanting ever since he was chibi!JIn.

What I find weird is that most fans who are in denial about this trust Jin to be the most-honest-person-ever, which, hey, I have no problem with (though I disagree). But I'm really confused. If you trust what Jin says, then trust his actions too, because actions do really speak louder than words.

And by his actions, I mean his behaviour when he's doing KT activities vs his solo activities. You have to be blind or wading really, really deep in the denial pool to not see the difference.

Here is Jin during the promotion of 'Love Yourself.' Notice his blank face. Notice how people notice his blank face and how that affects the rest of KT. Do not make excuses like 'he's just shy around new ppl/the camera' because that. That isn't even an excuse. It's just what you want to believe. Jin's been the co-frontman of KT for how long now? Do you honestly believe that he could pull that off while being camera shy?? Just because he's not good at MC-ing doesn't make him shy.

Don't believe me, here's proof. Notice the expressions, the smile, the funny dance at the end. This is Jin doing solo work. This is Jin happy. This is also Jin in LA, a foreign land when compared to Japan and a foreign interviewer. And Jin is not shy. Why? Because he's not the shy type. A shy person whould not want to leave a group to go solo and embrace the centre of the spolight. It's obvious that Jin is thriving now that he's gotten the chance to follow his dreams. How can anyone deny that??

If Jin did return to KT like you all want him to, do you think he'd act any differently then he has been these past few years? Especially now that he's felt the thrill of holding his own solo con?? And do you think the rest of KT deserves that? To accept a member back into the group after he's already abandoned them twice, both at pivotol times in their career? To act as a safety net for someone who is half-hearted in all their activities and would rather be elsewhere??

And as for Jin, why don't you want him to live out his dream?? Because by asking him to remain with KT, that's what your doing. How can he have the freedom to give his all in his desired future if he's constantly running back to support KT?? If you don't want him going solo because you're worried that he'll fail, then you really don't have any respect for the rest of the members. KT should not be his back-up. KT should be his dream. But it's not, so deal with it. It's not like Jin hasn't made it obvious.

So yeah, I'm getting really annoyed by fans being selfish in the name of supporting KT. If you support them, don't deny what's clearly happening. Accept it and move on!!! Both KT and Jin are happy with this arrangement, so be happy that they're happy!!

Comments

[goldfreckled.livejournal.com]

This is exactly what I'm thinking: I'd rather see them apart and happy then watch the five of them being cute with each other and Jin obviously not caring.
♥♥

[krysyuy.livejournal.com]

You took the words right out of my mouth. =.= I was thinking about making a post about this, but I'm a bit lazy and you said it all, really.

We also know that once he returned from his tour, his answer changed to I like doing solo work more then KT work and I don't know what will happen in the future.

This, to me, is the most damning evidence. I find that some fans are conveniently forgetting these parts. They're remembering the 'I won't quit KAT-TUN', etc, etc, but overlooking what he later said. It's a bit frustrating, to be honest. =.=' And even though I find Jin says what's on his mind 98% of the time - he's very bluntly honest - he's not an idiot either. And neither is the agency (most of the time =.=). For something as big as him leaving KAT-TUN... they would want to keep it under wraps (until now, obviously). I don't know how much I can trust that 'I won't quit KAT-TUN' statement anymore, especially after the 'I don't know what will happen in the future' b/c frankly? I think that statement trumps the previous one. And the way the answer is so vague? It kinda tips in the direction that he will leave. But that's just my opinion.

Also, I completely agree with your assessment in the above comments, comparing Yamapi's and Jin's situations. That's exactly how I view it. Plus, I really think if Jin were to go solo, he would want to focus 100% on that. Also, he likes his private time, and to juggle both solo and KT work? =.='' He wouldn't have time for himself, and that's a big no-no for him. Another point I've seen some people bring up - which I get so annoyed about, omg - is why can't KT put their activities on hold while Jin does his stuff (like how NEWS hasn't really done anything while their members pursue whatever projects). I haven't seen a lot of people mention this, but it has been mentioned. And I'm like, 'Are you freakin' kidding me?' Ugh. If there's one way for a group to fade into the background, it's for them to go on hiatus. That is so not what KT needs. They need exposure, not the exact opposite!

Ack, did I get a bit rant-y? I'm sorry. :( Anyways, great job on this post. You always write things so eloquently! -jealous- XD

[ayuzak.livejournal.com]

I've seen you around leaving very very sane and rational comments. I feel a great appreciation for fans like you at times like this.

If you don't mind, can I friend you?

[black-rose45000.livejournal.com]

i hope you don't mind me coming here. krysyuy mentioned this entry so i got curious. ^^;

A shy person whould not want to leave a group to go solo and embrace the centre of the spolight.
haven't thought of this argument before, but you're so right.

If Jin did return to KT like you all want him to, do you think he'd act any differently then he has been these past few years? Especially now that he's felt the thrill of holding his own solo con?? And do you think the rest of KT deserves that? To accept a member back into the group after he's already abandoned them twice, both at pivotol times in their career?
it's pretty obvious that he wouldn't act differently. but what bothers me the most is that these fans won't understand, no matter how much anyone tells them that KTTUN don't deserve to be treated that way, and that they want 6nin KT cause otherwise there's no KT, but in fact, 5nin KT is more of a band than 6nin is, with the way they seem so united, motivated, ambitious and happy and most of all dedicated to their fans. they want 6nin no matter what, even though it's obvious that KT isn't the same band it used to be. like you said, it's changed. they're hanging too much to the past, to some illusion of a great band, with them as 6. unfortunately, they won't understand that too soon. if they haven't after all these months, after seeing KTTUN's behavior or messages regarding their dream and direction they're heading towards, compared to Jin's, then it'll take a long time for ppl to get used to the reality.
i hope tho nothing happens at their cons, what with the yarakashi rumors and stuff. even if that rumor turns out to be false, it doesn't mean that kind of thing might not happen in the future >.>

anyway, sorry for the long comment =.= and for intruding. =.= i really liked your entry, i hope more ppl will open their eyes.

[kachiessy-18.livejournal.com]

man, id hate to be them when october?(is that the magic date?) comes and the "Jin is returning to KAT-TUN" they're holding onto blows up in their faces. sorry, i just don't think there's going to be a "the prodigal son returns 2.0" on this saga.

kame basically put out there -- we're fine without him. we'll do fine without him. he left us before and we did alright. it's not the first time we're going to deal with something like this. we've created a new shape for the 5 of us. -- are those the words of someone who thinks Jin is coming back or someone who wants Jin to come back? Nope. XDDD

and let's not forget, johnny was quoted as saying "he has no plans of returning but even if he did, the other 5 wont forgive him so easily this time". is there anything more final than that?

[pinkbacardi.livejournal.com]

If Jin did return to KT like you all want him to, do you think he'd act any differently then he has been these past few years? Especially now that he's felt the thrill of holding his own solo con?? And do you think the rest of KT deserves that? To accept a member back into the group after he's already abandoned them twice, both at pivotal times in their career? To act as a safety net for someone who is half-hearted in all their activities and would rather be elsewhere??

THIS. Word. I agree completely. These are like, the thoughts I didn't know how to put into words.

[ilovekamechan.livejournal.com]

agree with your pov! i think likewise too! had fun reading! thank you! cheers!

[brindhakrishnan.livejournal.com]

Hey scorch66, This statement of yours just gave me goosebumps. "KT should not be his back-up. KT should be his dream. But it's not, so deal with it. It's not like Jin hasn't made it obvious."
Its so true. Koki, Ueda and Kame have mentioned similarly, Maru is always trying to think of the group. And Junno, though he's KY always tries to get the group together. I think for them, kat-tun is a dream, family, their center.

I have no idea why I hadn't read this sooner but I feel so similarly to you about Jin. It seems like he is happy being solo now. And even Ueda and Maru have voiced out their support for him. Its okay for Jin to be solo if it means all 6 of them will still be happy with what they do. I was and still am I suppose a fan of 6 KAT-TUN but sadly it won't be existing anymore. And I rather have a happy 6 as a group and solo than have one unhappy group that tries to cover up for a sour puss. I don't think I can start trashing or ignore Jin completely since I think he was an important part of KAT-TUN for a long time. But I don't quite understand the theatrics or drama over why some people are bashing either Jin or KAT-TUN. You've said it very nicely and eloquently in your post.

I apologize for commenting on a post that was written some time back. But I didn't want to read anything back then since fans were trashing each other. And I came across your post because you had that lovely Kame Post and was re-visiting it. And saw this. :)

[kazuyachan.livejournal.com]

This gomenne I just happen to know your lj like now
hope I can still comment
I totally agree with u on this
though I really hate sorry angry at Jin for being selfish
I rather he leave for good
bc he does not deserve kt as much as kt does not deserve Jin
people change and there is no point of holding them back
let's move on and create the magical feel of what is us
the 5 member kt
it's different. It's no longer magical akame we sought
but the kt now is just as awesome
gomen demo I admire them more than I am to Jin
bc while Jin chasing after his dream
kt fill up the empty spaces he left behind
with such unity and grace
and still be friend with him
that I have to admire
it sad that they can't never be together like we wish them to
but let's. Just move on ne
there's more to like then Jin in la lol
I hope iam not offending anybody
gomenasai!